24.02.2022. Иди и смотри. (18+)

[rodnoy]

Доброго ранку! :)

не забудь, что война уже идет 4 месяца......
...в невоенное время сподвигнуть...

Т.е. "война уже идёт" не 8 лет, а "4 месяца"...
Т.е. до этого было мирное время... "невоенное"...
Т.е. до этого было какое-то непонятное АТО/ООС, где-то далеко... но невоенное...

Не могла бы ты пояснить этот момент?

Нехай щастить! :)

[djay]

Доброго ранку! :)

не забудь, что война уже идет 4 месяца......
...в невоенное время сподвигнуть...

Т.е. "война уже идёт" не 8 лет, а "4 месяца"... (3)
Т.е. до этого было мирное время... "невоенное"... (2)
Т.е. до этого было какое-то непонятное АТО/ООС, где-то далеко... но невоенное... (1)
Не могла бы ты пояснить этот момент?

Нехай щастить! :)

На вопросы "шо такое море" всегда сложно отвечать, но я попробую. Расставив соответственно временной шкале.
1. "Непонятное АТО":

Антитерористична операція на сході України (АТО) — комплекс військових та спеціальних організаційно-правових заходів українських силових структур, спрямований на протидію діяльності незаконних російських та проросійських збройних формувань у війні на сході України. Ввечері 12 квітня 2014 року рішення про початок операції було прийняте Радою національної безпеки і оборони України і оголошено на наступний день, 13 квітня.[1] Сама операція тривала з 14 квітня 2014 року до 30 квітня 2018. Після АТО на сході України була введена операція Об'єднаних сил (ООС).

Згідно з заявами української влади, для відсічі російської агресії навесні 2014 року був обраний саме правовий режим антитерористичної операції через термінову потребу провести вибори президента і парламенту. Вибори були б неможливі в умовах введення воєнного стану. [⇨]

2. Было время всякое. И политики, по нужде, часто употребляли фразу "у нас война!", если надо было какие-то грехи куда-то списать. Но никто из них не отказывал себе ни в каких привычных удовольствиях. 8 лет "сурового поста", как бы, никто не придерживался. А ты не в курсе? Занятно...

3. Да.

[erisity]

Я знаю каков восновном здешний читатель, в том числе моих постов, К.Орлова это озвучит с 5:10 по 9:12, если коротко — так или иначе, немолодой выходец из каких-нить шитхол кантриз. А это, к сожалению, практически диагноз, пусть он хоть все 50+ лет живёт на "Западе" и на веки веков "против Путина" и "восточной деспотии". Ну да ладно, может есть ещё какие другие невидимые читатели. Лол:

1. [March 23, 2022] Racial Discrimination In Ukraine Conflict: A Case For Ukrainian Authorities To Be Prosecuted For War Crimes

Ukrainian authorities at the outset of the Russian invasion blocked foreign nationals, mainly of African descent, from leaving the country. Racial discrimination in the Ukraine conflict has been documented by Human Rights Watch <...>

To assess whether the acts of Ukrainian individuals for discrimination against Black people wanting to cross the border could be prosecuted by the ICC, the gravity test must be considered. It is arguable that the racial discrimination is systematic and large scale as there have been hundreds of Indian, Middle Eastern, and African people denied access to transportation and entrance into Poland. However, it is unlikely that Ukrainian authorities who were train or bus drivers, conductors, and security personnel could be classified as the most senior leaders of the situation. Their conduct might not satisfy the gravity test, and would not warrant further action by the ICC.

Instead, war crimes committed by individuals within the Ukrainian authorities could be investigated and prosecuted by individual states, particularly African countries whose nationals have been most affected. The ICTR, the Special Court of Sierra Leone, and the Extraordinary African Chambers in Senegal have stated that African countries have the capacity to investigate and prosecute international crimes.

2. [Jun 8, 2022] "Дуда начал турне по Европе, чтобы добиться для Украины статуса кандидата в ЕС" (c) СМИ

3. [Oct 8, 2021] "Варшава хочет выхода из ЕС? Национальное законодательство Польши превалирует над законами Евросоюза, постановил польский Конституционный суд (КС) 7 октября 2021 года. В Брюсселе этот вердикт вызвал бурную реакцию, если не сказать шок. Чаша терпения ЕС переполнена" (c) СМИ

4. В академич. кругах: “Worse than communism and Nazism put together”, Poland's anti-gender campaigns in a comparative perspective By Agnieszka Graff, Elżbieta Korolczuk

in Poland anti-feminist ethno-nationalist rhetoric has been much more pronounced. While there are context-specific elements of Polish anti-gender campaigns, it is a part of a broader resurgence of right-wing extremism and religious fundamentalism, a coordinated transnational effort to undermine liberal values by democratic means.

5. RTVI:

Клементина Сухов, журналистка, основательница движения Strajk Kobiet: «У Кремля есть свои структуры. Конкретно эти активны в Европе среди фундаменталистских и националистических движений. Владимир Якунин в списке, Администрация президента — а это дипломатия и так далее — «Солнцевская группировка», которая тоже активна в Польше».

Клементина Сухов уверена, что несмотря на антироссийскую риторику официальной Варшавы, в Польше сильно влияние Москвы. Даже главный лоббист закона о запрете абортов, католическая организация «Ордо Юрис», по мнению Клементины, связана с Россией.

Клементина Сухов, журналистка, основательница движения Strajk Kobiet: «Китай, Россия, США пытаются установить новый имперский порядок в мире. Происходят изменения. Европейский Союз пока не так силен, но он на пути к мировому лидерству, и Россия хочет его уничтожить. Я считаю, что Польша выбрана „Троянским конем“, чтобы победить Европу».

О международных консервативных лоббистских организациях Клементина Сухов написала книгу «Это война». Судя по всему, в Польше сейчас и правда идет почти война между консерваторами и либералами. Между теми, кто видит будущее вместе с Западом, и теми, кто смотрит в сторону Востока.

6. Lmao, оппозиционеры в шитхол кантриз называют Америку "лидер свободного мира", тогда как в свободном мире прекрасно знают что это за говна кусок.



7. Американские правые и их полезные идиоты русско/украино язычные шитхол-мигранты: "Запад засасывает трясина культурного марксизма". Реальность: Cultural Marxism – the ultimate post-factual dog whistle (для чайников: см. что такое Dog Whistle).

8. Американские правые и их полезные идиоты русско/украино язычные шитхол-мигранты: "антифа террористы угрожают зап. цивилизации, а власть, захваченная марксистами-коммунистами почему-то говорит о нас, патриотах за свободу, как о domestic terrorist threat". Реальность: потому что вы и есть, "Number of People Killed in Deadly Attacks in the Post-9/11 Era, by Ideology, Far Right Wing 122, Far Left Wing 1." Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, Not “Antifa”.

9. POLITICO "The plan to overturn abortion rights in Europe, the activists taking inspiration — and money — from US anti-abortion groups".

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When news broke that the U.S. Supreme Court had overturned decades of precedent and opened the door to abortion bans across the country, the reaction from opponents of the procedure in Europe was simple: We can do it too.

With support for legal abortion in Europe polling at the highest in the world, its opponents know they are rowing against the tide. But activists on the Continent got a practical demonstration of how a determined minority can make the impossible happen last weekend, when the U.S. Supreme Court confirmed a POLITICO scoop that it was repealing the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling. The decision made, or will soon make, abortion illegal across 16 states.

For opponents of abortion in Europe, the ruling confirmed their belief that public opinion and — perhaps more importantly — public policy can be changed.

“This is very positive, and it will be looked at by other judges,” said Grégor Puppinck, director of the European Center for Law and Justice and one of the biggest names in anti-abortion activism in Europe, a few hours after the Supreme Court decision was announced.

“I think it is obvious that 50 years after Roe v. Wade, abortion is still a problem, and it will always be a problem,” he added. “Normalization is not possible.”

Puppinck, a Quebec native who studied law in France, heads the legal foundation out of Strasbourg, where he is carrying out a strategy inspired by the American anti-abortion movement — with funding and support from backers in the United States.

By issuing legal opinions and representing clients in court cases, the ECLJ pushes for conservative interpretations of the law on topics like religious freedom, assisted suicide and, of course, abortion, in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) and other international organizations.

Over the years, Puppinck has made a name for himself. He's served as an adviser to the Vatican, and was awarded honors by the Italian government for his legal services in a lawsuit over the right to hang crucifixes in public schools.

This May, he gave a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Budapest, where he inveighed against socialism, postmodernism and French President Emmanuel Macron. The annual U.S. version of the conference is a top political meetup for the American Republican Party. In the Hungarian edition, not-coincidentally held in the capital of Viktor Orbán's hard-right government, Puppinck was joined by heavyweights from the American right, including Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

American ties

Organizations like Puppinck’s are part of an American effort to export anti-abortion activism across the Atlantic.

Over the past half-century, U.S. anti-abortion activists have chipped away at the precedent set by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1973 Roe v. Wade case, even when it looked set in stone, arguing that the verdict was based on faulty legal reasoning.

It was in the U.S. that largely evangelical activists blazed a trail and turned opposition to abortion into a basic conservative position, making the religious right a decisive voting block for Republican candidates. They also targeted law schools. In 1982, activists set up the Federalist Society to promote conservative interpretations of the American Constitution.

Now, through a combination of electoral success, determination to expand their influence in the judiciary, and sheer luck with the timing of a number of key U.S. Supreme Court appointments coinciding with Donald Trump’s presidency, they had their biggest win in a half-century.

Opposition to abortion isn’t anything new in Europe either. The Catholic Church's condemnation of abortion dates back hundreds of years, and it's only hardened over time. Orthodox and conservative Protestant groups take similar stances.

But with activists on the Continent so far unable to replicate the success of their American counterparts, U.S. groups are trying to put their thumb on the scale, sharing tactics and funding with allies in Europe.

In total, $81.3 million worth of funding flowed from U.S. donors to help fund activism against abortion and other conservative causes between 2009 and 2018, according to a report compiled by the European Parliamentary Forum for Sexual and Reproductive Rights (EPF), a pro-abortion access network that connects members across European parliaments with a liberal stance on sexual and reproductive rights.

EPF Executive Director Neil Datta called the U.S. Supreme Court decision the result of a multidecade campaign by Christian conservatives to influence the American judicial system. Now the same is happening in Europe, said Datta.

“We're just at a much earlier stage in the process than the United States.”

In the funding model outlined by Datta in the report, influential mega-donors set up charitable foundations that back activist groups in the U.S. These in turn operate, directly or through subsidiary organizations, overseas.

Puppinck’s ECLJ, for example, is an offshoot of the American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ), a conservative organization based out of Washington D.C. The ACLJ was set up by American televangelist Pat Robertson and is led by Jay Sekulow, one of the lawyers who represented Trump in his first impeachment trial. Tax filings show how the ACLJ helps fund its European counterpart, transferring $1.4 million in the year ending March 2020.

In parallel, liberal American donors back pro-abortion rights groups, and the EPF website lists George Soros’ Open Society Foundations (OSF) and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation as backers. The ECLJ itself has published a report tracking links between the OSF and judges who served on the ECHR.

The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) International is another European-headquartered offshoot of a conservative U.S. organization.

Tax returns show how the U.S.-based ADF donated around $2.7 million to various European groups under the name ADF International headquartered in Belgium, France, Switzerland, Germany and the U.K. in the year ended June 2021. ADF, in turn, received $100,000 in the year ended June 2020 from the Prince Foundation, where the founder of the security contractor once known as Blackwater and Trump ally Erik Prince serves as director.

ADF International is headquartered in Vienna but has offices in Brussels, Geneva, London and Strasbourg. According to the EU's transparency register, ADF International's Austrian branch had a budget of €9.5 million for the year through June 2021. The organization provides legal services to defendants in sensitive cases — for example helping a midwifery student win damages after being suspended from a university over what ADF International said was her anti-abortion views.

The group is also active in the European institutions. In 2017, it co-hosted an event with MEPs from the center-right European People's Party group on the use of fetal tissue in scientific research. And last year, it organized a briefing on the persecution of Christians in Myanmar with MEPs from both the EPP and the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists group.

Updating the script

Legal battles and lobbying efforts with conservative politicians are one thing; but the activists know that if they are to obtain their objectives, they can’t ignore the court of public opinion.

Lois McLatchie, 26, originally from Scotland, is a communications officer for ADF International out of Vienna. She said that while "people may be surprised to hear" it, she believes her stance against abortion is a feminist one. “I think we can do far better to support mothers and their babies,” McLatchie said.

On May 7, anti-abortion groups converged on Brussels under the banner of the pan-European group One of Us.

In 2014, the group — at the time under the leadership of Puppinck — made waves in the EU capital, after it gathered nearly 2 million signatures in a citizen's initiative to ban EU funding for research using fetal tissue (it didn't pass). The gathering this year coincided with the end of the Conference of the Future of Europe, where One of Us also had tried to bring the topic of abortion to the forefront, this time with less success.

The event also highlighted the difference between the movement’s traditional campaigners and a new generation of activists working to deliver a fresher — more hopeful — message.

Though the gathering took place the same week as the bombshell news of POLITICO’s U.S. Supreme Court leak, its mostly older speakers made almost no mention of it. Instead, sounding more like an academic meeting than a political rally, participants discoursed on the meaning of freedom and responsibility. Aristotle was mentioned more than once. The names of the justices that were about to overturn Roe v. Wade didn't come up at all.

In an interview after the event, One of Us president, the grey-bearded 70-year-old former Basque politician Jaime Mayor Oreja, painted a gloomy picture of the future, for both the anti-abortion activism and society as a whole.

“We're experiencing the end of a period," said Oreja. "A period that is presided over by decadence.”

Younger attendees, however, gave a cheerier take on the future of their movement — one more attuned to current events than Classical philosophers.

Aliette Espieux, 23, is a spokeswoman for France’s March for Life. Another American export, the first March for Life was a street demonstration first held in 1974, the year after the Roe v. Wade decision. An annual Paris version of the event was started in 2005. In 2017, official estimates put the number of attendees at around 11,000, though this year attendance fell to about 4,500, according to the Paris police.

“My main goal is, first of all, to change the mentality of people on the ground," said Espieux, whose Twitter bio predicts that she belongs to the generation that will “abolish abortion.”

Like others in this younger — very often female — cohort, Espieux is working to update the movement’s pitch for a modern audience, putting sympathy for the plight of women front and center.

"Women who have an abortion suffer ... we want to speak with this person on the street,” she said, adding she was enthusiastic about the news from the U.S. — at the time only a leaked draft.

“It gives us a huge [amount of] energy," she said.

Maria Formosa is even younger. The 19-year-old comes from Malta, the country with the strictest abortion laws in the EU. Last year, Formosa said that with four friends she launched an online group called I See Life where pro-life young people could share their views.

“This was an initiative which we took, after observing that in Malta, there are many pro-life youths,” she said. “However, they are afraid to speak up. We wanted to create a platform where youths can feel safe.”

The potential of this new generation has not gone unnoticed by the movement’s establishment. Last year, in response to what it described as the "deepening crisis of academic life,” the Polish conservative think tank Ordo Iuris founded a Warsaw-based university intended to promote conservative causes and train a pipeline of graduates to staff the movement’s organizations, as well as provide candidates for the courts and other government institutions.

At Collegium Intermarium, students can take a five-year course in law, as well as post-graduate courses in the "Management of non-governmental organisations" or in "Human Rights and International Dispute Resolution" — which includes a class taught by Puppinck.

What's to come

It's not a coincidence that the Collegium Intermarium is based out of Warsaw. If in most of Europe the right to abortion is in no immediate danger, Poland is the country anti-abortion activists point to as their guiding star.

The country instituted a near-total ban in 2020, when a top court ruled pregnancies couldn’t be terminated due to fetal defects. The decision left only rape or incest, or if the life of the woman is threatened, as exceptions.

Ordo Iuris was the driving force behind the ban, publishing a "friend of the court" brief to the tribunal. The organization's leader, Jerzy Kwaśniewski, said it was “a great day” when the tribunal made its ruling.

Since then, the ultra-Catholic conservative group has been busy making sure that the ban is followed, explained Katarzyna Gęsiak, director of the group's Center for Medical Law and Bioethics.

“The pro-abortion organizations, they are still active and they're finding another way to increase the number of abortions," said Gęsiak.

Abortions on the grounds of a threat to mental health was one example Gęsiak gave of — as she described it — the loopholes that pro-abortion NGOs were using to provide women abortions.

Pregnant Ukrainian refugees was another. The Ordo Iuris director said she was fighting to make sure that refugees were going through the Polish prosecutor's office to certify they had really been raped by Russian soldiers, before getting cleared to terminate their pregnancy.

The Polish example also shows how it’s one thing to put in place restrictions on abortion — and another to maintain them.

Despite the dominance of the conservative Law and Justice party, the issue has been politically fraught for right-wing politicians.

In 2016, a proposed law to ban abortion was withdrawn for being too unpopular. And while the Constitutional Tribunal's 2020 decision avoided a dicey vote in parliament, it too was met with huge protests — the largest in the country since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

In 2021, these flared up once again after the death of a pregnant woman, which the family's lawyer blamed on doctors delaying a potentially life-saving abortion.

Meanwhile, opposition leader Donald Tusk, leader of the conservative Civic Platform party, has come out in favor of legal abortion, possibly seeing it as a vote-winner.

If anti-abortion efforts gain traction across the Continent, the reaction to this week’s Roe ruling will likely presage a new division in European politics. Abortion might prove to split the European right as much as it unifies the left.

In the U.K., the country with the longest window of legal abortion in Europe, Conservative Prime Minister Boris Johnson called the U.S. Supreme Court decision "big step backwards."

In Italy, Simone Pillon of the far-right League party celebrated the U.S. court decision on Twitter, calling it a "great victory." By contrast, Giorgia Meloni, the leader of Italy's other major hard-right party, Brothers of Italy, played down the relevance of the American abortion debate to Italy after the verdict: "The U.S. and Italy have profoundly different legal systems that can't be compared."

In Spain, the far-right Vox party has its roots in the "pro-life" movement, and its party leaders attended an anti-abortion demonstration in Madrid shortly after news of the ruling broke. Led by Oreja of One of Us, an estimated 20,000 people showed up.

Whether most European leaders like it or not, the abortion debate in Europe is here to stay.

Lmao "зап. цивилизация", "incredibly strong", "марксисты-фашисты не пройдут", "лидер свободного мира против архаичного восточного деспотизма" ...теократический говна кусок

11:37-14:00

[Николай]

"ВСУ опустили "страшного" Кадырова ниже плинтуса"

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[rodnoy]

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[djay]

Хто б сомневался?

[Николай]

"Заводы ВПК США работают в три смены на Украину/ Наступление ВСУ приближается/ № 258 - Юрий Швец"

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ЗЫ. Зеленского, как и любого президента, можно критиковать и есть за что. Но должен отметить его величайшую заслугу, его личные деяния, без которых вы, дорогие мои украинцы, сейчас имели бы грустный вид проигравших!
Он отказался убегать из страны. План Путина был выполнен - юг Украины был без выстрелов, благодаря предательству, захвачен, у стен Киева на третий день стояла большущая группировка орков с бессметным количеством бронетехники. Всё было сделано, как задумал великий человек 5 круга, высочайший посвящённый, "Майтрейя", "Калки Аватар" и величайшая радость (наваждение заблудших и тёмных душ) рашен-теософов-фашистов исчезла - их иллюзорные надежды растаяли и превратилась в уничтоженные и взлетевшие на воздух танки.
Проявленная смелость, мужество "комика" дало опору и народу, и странам, живущих по принципам добра, - странам демократии - оказать необходимую помощь для победы в первой, самой опасной фазе войны, выпавших на вашу долю страшных испытаний. Была точка выбора и Зеленский выбрал возможную смерть, борьбу вместо жизни за границей ценой предательства украинского народа.
Возможно, факты, указанные Ю.Швец, случайны, а может в них виноваты близкие "друзья" - Демченко и Ермак. Или кто-то иной.

[Вэл]

Проявленная смелость, мужество "комика" дало опору и народу, и странам, живущих по принципам добра, - странам демократии - оказать необходимую помощь для победы в первой, самой опасной фазе войны, выпавших на вашу долю страшных испытаний. Была точка выбора и Зеленский выбрал возможную смерть, борьбу вместо жизни за границей ценой предательства украинского народа.

это утверждение бесспорно.

:-)

прям скажем, выбор у него был невелик: или позор и проклятие собственного народа, или необходимость проявить и выдержку и смелость.

но для него это был лишь момент выбора, а для большинства народа этот момент ничего не решал. народ свой выбор сделал ещё в 14 году. по соцопросам предвоенного времени готовность к сопротивлению в случае вторжения высказали более 50% опрошенных граждан украины, в том числе готовность к вооружённому сопротивлению - 38%. а это огромная цифра.

к тому же накануне высшие чины генштаба украины не раз заявляли, что готовы настолько, насколько это возможно и будут драться как львы (про львов - это моя интерпретация).

решимость и народа и генштаба перед угрозой полномасштабной войны - это такие факторы, в присутствии которых президенту делать выбор было намного намного легче, как я думаю. но это не преуменьшает его личную заслугу/заслуги. ну и хорошо.

:-)

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"Соловьёва заставили извиниться / Ну и новости!"

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PS. Выкладываю ролики с новостями для россиян, полностью лишённых возможности в выборе источника информации на Ютьюбе. Яндекс, поисковик и браузер настроены на фэйковые россми, блокирует, убирает из списка поиска все каналы с правдой.

[Вэл]

сводки с фронта последних недель и особенно последних дней свидетельствуют о том, что ВСУ начали активно применять новое вооружение. его пока ещё мало, но применяют его эффективно: командные пункты, склады боеприпасов и всё это относительно далеко в тылу противника. а сегодня добили и остров Змеиный (это то место, где впервые ещё в феврале прозвучал ответ: "русский корабль, иди ...")

тут открылся любопытный момент.
в огневом поражении целей на острове принимала участие гаубица "Богдана" украинского производства см. историю создания Богдана (САУ) и тех характеристики на вики. к моменту войны она ещё не была принята на вооружение и существовала в одном рабочем экземпляре для испытаний. так вот этот единственный экземпляр и работал по острову в комплексе с другими средствами. см видео от Залужного.

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